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I've now watched the full hour and want to add that I appreciate the openness of the "conversation" (and the allusion to the flick), the kindness that you expressed toward each other, the interest in your each other and, thus, the connection. After all, "Only connect ..." the epigraph to E.M. Forster's _Howards End_ is my moniker, so to speak. One more comment: I do edit but believe firmly that editing is always a secondary task ... I could go on ... xo to you both. ~ Mary

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Thank you so for the mention. I haven't yet listened to the full hour but will. I must say at this point in the conversation: Wish I were a man and could join your group. Sam, as he knows, rides high for me on Substack. And now I've found you.

Wondering also at 15 minutes in, particularly you, Bowen, because of your title, and Sam of course, if you've read Maurice Blanchot's _The Writing of the Disaster_ that I quote today? More once I finish the full conversation.

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Sam, with regard to your comment about not editing your own writing: As a professional editor, I think that your work does not need editing. I can easily follow the line of your thought, and there is only one other writer on the Substacks that I read who comes close to the quality of your writing. A good editor needs two things: a perfect template of grammar and a special structure of the mind. The template of grammar can be acquired by study and extensive reading of well-written books and essays, but the structure of mind is a gift (seldom recognized and seriously undercompensated). When someone with that structure of mind writes, the editing is already built into the writing.

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Thanks for the mention, Bowen. I didn't know you were friends with Charlie Engle. He and I met earlier this year at a retreat in Omaha. Love that guy.

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Love to see a fellow substacker creating community via dialogue. We’re on the same wavelength good sir. Sam was a treat to chat with, one of these days we’ll have to have a chat too 🍕

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